Re: [分享] Conrad Tokyo Bay view Suite[HH]

看板points (點數哩程板)作者 (德文!日文!Kame!)時間10年前 (2015/09/09 14:35), 編輯推噓18(18046)
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回信來了。 他說是水垢或是鈣的沉澱。 (不過沒交代為何會有強烈的霉味呢?) 早餐跟費用接待的事情會再加強員工訓練 各位都錯了。沒有補償。 回信在這邊 Dear Mr. Chen, Thank you for having chosen our hotel for your recent stay in Tokyo and we appreciate that you have taken the time to bringing your concern to your attention. Please accept my sincere apologies for the inconvenience and discomfort you experienced with breakfast charge and the kettle in the guest room, which is not certainly our standard. I have shared your experience with our Food & Beverage team to ensure to conduct refresher training and to double check the guest information for any charge. As for the kettle, we have taken your concern seriously and conducted our complete investigation immediately but found no trace of mold. We did however identify a calcium or limescale buildup from water hardness or chlorine residue that might have appeared as mold. We, regardless, could have taken a prompt investigative action, offered explanation and proper apologies on the spot you mentioned it upon check-out and I apologize for your distrust in our overall offerings caused by this. Please allow me to assure you that we periodically have external audit for sanitation check and all our food & beverage offerings are perfectly safe in any way. Our Housekeeping team, of course, is in the process of reviewing our cleaning procedure based on your feedback to perform more through check upon cleaning. Also, I have personally address the issue with our Front Office team to increase communication between the teams for a timely follow-up on any issue addressed by our guests. Please find attached the room folio as per your request and again I apologize for the belated delivery. Should you have any concern, please feel free to contact me directly. We, as a team, once again apologize for not meeting your expectation on this occasion and, at the same time, appreciate your feedback as it allows us to learn our shortcoming and improve our service. Sincerely yours, Gearoid Lyons Director of Operations Conrad Tokyo 1-9-1 Higashi-Shinbashi, Minato-ku Tokyo 105-7337, Japan 照片讓大家看看。 或許真的有水垢或鈣沉澱混在裡面, 但應該不會有濃烈的霉味才對, 而且鈣沉澱或水垢目前沒看過以菌落形式散落呈現的, 通常會以加熱點會是水滯留點的方式隨水流方向而生。 但他也提到了這可能是因為清潔訓練要再加強改進的問題, 我很好奇那之前喝到有鈣沉澱或氯沉澱水的人也算他雖...? 我看完這封信的感覺是飯店認為是你自己搞錯囉, 所以就到此為止沒有想再繼續處理下去的意思。 至於產生劇烈不舒服的感覺,就抱歉,  台端想像力豐富,請 台端自己調適。 因為是水垢或鈣沉澱,故沒有補償。 我自己是認為啦,就算是鈣或氯或某種化學物質鹽類的沉澱,而不是黴菌, 飯店的處理方式與態度應該都是要站在維護房客健康的立場, 不應該因為其提供設備所具瑕疵屬立即致病或長久累積致病而有差別。 (或許如果今天真的查出來是黴菌也是這樣的處理方式? 我猜可能也是的) 如果真是對身體無害也不影響房間美觀,也不需要加強清潔吧? (只為了我這奧客的過度幻想??) 真是挺矛盾也頗荒謬的。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.162.85.107 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/points/M.1441780556.A.5C7.html

09/09 14:36, , 1F
有照片嗎? 寄照片過去
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09/09 14:46, , 6F
信倒是落落長。日本水很乾淨而且酒店應該還有再處理吧,
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09/09 14:46, , 7F
水垢之類的解釋實在有些奇妙
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09/09 14:55, , 8F
真悲催QQ 寄照片給總部看吧~
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09/09 15:08, , 9F
太扯了 是Conrad耶 如果是中國的平價旅館就算了
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09/09 15:15, , 10F
之前去澳門Conrad,水龍頭出來都有帶一些沙,反應水不
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09/09 15:17, , 11F
能煮後來喝,另外再送2大瓶evian。
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09/09 15:21, , 12F
日本水垢都長那樣沒錯,那個應該不是黴菌
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09/09 15:24, , 13F
感覺c大很有經驗了 XDD
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09/09 15:25, , 14F
我個人看法是,即使是水垢,還是不該出現呀~ 畢竟是Conrad
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09/09 15:26, , 15F
還是我對Conrad的幻想期待太高? 我只是小資沒柱過
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09/09 16:06, , 16F
水垢是正常的, 水壺經常高溫加熱的東西黴菌應該是長不出
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來的
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09/09 16:07, , 18F
所以我才說問題重心應該在飯店重不重視房客健康,
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09/09 16:07, , 19F
而非白點是否真的是鈣沉澱、氯沈澱或黴菌。但說實在
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的,那壺子真的有霉味這千真萬確。可惜沒有氣味紀
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09/09 16:07, , 21F
錄機可留下証據。
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09/09 16:09, , 22F
我忘了說水壺上有ㄧ層灰塵的事。這也就是為何加上
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09/09 16:09, , 23F
其他証據(外觀、氣味等)後,我會認定是黴。
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09/09 16:10, , 24F
更加確定 未來狀況都要直接反應 回來後再寫信 實在
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09/09 16:10, , 25F
耗時耗力 所有現場還都是要以現場為準
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09/09 16:10, , 26F
因為顯然有ㄧ段時間未被動過
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09/09 16:12, , 27F
上次CI時感覺也是蠻差的,這服務收這價格真的不會讓人
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09/09 16:12, , 28F
再去
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09/09 17:55, , 29F
我的感覺是 套房太貴了->比較少人住->水壺產生霉味
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09/09 17:55, , 30F
八月中去住行政房 感覺還好 如果要說比較差的點...
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09/09 17:58, , 31F
大概是lounge空間太小 還給人一種怕你吃的感覺...
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直接tripAdvisor就好了,沒必要在繼續跟總部灰
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09/09 18:00, , 33F
這裡要稍微推一下旁邊的IC 酒從HH開始到晚餐 都沒收過
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09/09 18:03, , 34F
lounge真的很小
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09/09 18:34, , 35F
to Earl:我就是在等他回文後連同一起po上TA去
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09/09 19:38, , 36F
不過我覺得毛巾那段可以跳過,因為那感覺有點找碴..
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09/09 19:53, , 37F
好像真的感覺比較貴的房反而維護沒有很細心 上次去曼谷特色
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索菲特記得網路上一堆人大推 但人品爆發被升等到按摩房反而
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發現備品不齊 房間有些地方有少許灰塵@@
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09/09 20:28, , 40F
話說HH家的Conrad跟WA到底等級有差嗎... 還是WA比較高級?
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真心建議 當下有意見直接提出來
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09/09 20:33, , 42F
對高檔酒店的期待太高了
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09/09 21:37, , 43F
WA最高級
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09/09 21:44, , 44F
我還在旅館的當下的確已當面向旅館方提出上面的問題
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,只是僅得到為難的微笑回應,他們也沒想再進一步處
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理,我也被趕著離開,不曉得各位版友認為我沒有在
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旅館入住期間提出這些問題的點,是否指我沒有拿著
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水壺去櫃檯指著鼻子罵他們?XD
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覺得沒得到滿意的答覆,可以請經理出來。
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09/09 22:19, , 50F
我想e大的意思大概是 要立即改善這種問題 應直接撥電話
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09/09 22:19, , 51F
畢竟花入住的時間作實驗 造福的是版友 犧牲的卻是...
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我會當下請他們換一個壺給我(如果我一定要煮水),不然
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住房時間自己的心情...
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09/09 22:21, , 54F
就是給我多幾瓶水。
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09/10 10:03, , 55F
這個好像是東京Conrad回的 所以解釋一堆理由XD
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照Earl說的建議 上TripAdvisor說吧~
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09/10 10:24, , 57F
如果是水垢那真的怪不了酒店 但是如果快煮壺潮濕又沒清
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確實會長毛 有朋友碰過快煮壺被前n任住客煮泡麵後都沒
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清...(噁)
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09/10 12:01, , 60F
樓上的是恐怖酒店吧 一晚30usd那種的
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09/10 12:30, , 61F
朋友住的不清楚 不過如果煮完泡麵湯有倒光擺回原位 外
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面看水位條是空的 打掃的當做沒用過不去清也不意外
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09/10 13:53, , 63F
昨日已刊登trip advisor 但目前仍在審核中
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09/10 23:03, , 64F
好奇請教tripadvisor是否真的有這麼大功用
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